When we did our sweep of way-too-early first-round mock drafts in June, there were eight QBs who were given at least some first-round consideration by one of the seven services we monitor. Three months later, I bet there would be far less love for some of them. LSU’s Garrett Nussmeier, Clemson’s Cade Klubnik and Texas’ Arch Manning haven’t shone as brightly as many expected. On the other hand, Oklahoma’s John Mateer and Vanderbilt’s Diego Pavia may not have entered the season with much acclaim, but they’re each building it these days.

I asked several of my former NFL scouting friends which QB has surprised them the most — good or bad — this season. This is what they told me.

“Biggest surprise would be Arch Manning’s mechanics. If the Mannings are known for anything, it is their fundamentals and mechanics. Arch is using different arm angles that are forcing him to spin the ball unnaturally, almost like a baseball pitcher would spin a slider or forkball.  This must change or the outcome of his throws won’t. He is not the most naturally gifted, arm-wise, but must rely on accuracy and ball placement to have ultimate success. A big revelation  is CJ Bailey from North Carolina State. I have watched Bailey three times now. He is a tall, athletic QB with an easy spin and delivery of the ball. He is completing over 70% of his passes and protecting the ball very well while leading his team to a 3-0 record over East Carolina, Wake Forest and Virginia. He hasn’t played a gimme game yet, but he’s having a lot of success for such a young signal-caller. Another QB I really like is Julian Sayin from Ohio State, a highly recruited player that first arrived at Alabama and transferred when Nick Saban retired.  Alabama will regret letting this one leave. Sayin has a very good arm; he’s a very talented passer with a catchable ball and easy spin. Good athlete in the pocket. With the talent around him he will shine.” — Blake Beddingfield, former Titans scouting executive  

“Diego Pavia for his leadership. He has limitations, but he’s got the “it factor” and presence that teammates will follow. Sometimes belief carries a team past their limitations.” — Mark Gorscak, scout (retired), Steelers

“When you consider the hype and expectations, there is not a more disappointing player in college football right now than Arch Manning. It hasn’t been pretty and there has been much speculation about Arch playing through an injury. I’m not sure Sark’s press conferences are doing him any favors in terms of fanning the flames. Will be one of the more interesting storylines to watch this year.” — Ric Serritella, former CFL and all-star executive and founder, All Access Football

“Arch Manning for me. I expected Sark’s offense to really fit him well and lead to a good season. Overall, they have been a disappointing team. Offensively, just unable to do a ton, and that starts with the QB.” — Rodrik David, former scout, Falcons & Titans

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