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Here’s An Idea

21 Thursday May 2015

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In this space, I try to encourage people who want a place in football to go their own way, and to find their own route to success. I was talking to a couple friends in football over the past week, one a scout and one who runs all-star games, and they each discussed an idea I’ve always thought about: basically, it’s a combine with pads.

Most folks who run all-star games are football guys. They aren’t TV people and they aren’t ticket sales experts, but they have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to broadcast the games (that’s right — they PAY for air time rather than receiving money for broadcast rights) and hope they get 5,000-6,000 fans at the gate (which is about right for most all-star games). What they’d like to focus on, usually, is compiling a talented roster of players and some good coaches, then making sure NFL teams have all the information they need.

So what if they could just focus on their areas of expertise? What if there was a week of practice without a game? What if a game could run full-contact workouts that were more than just the 90-minute exercises, often not even in pads, that you see at all-star games?

What if you brought in the top 330 or so players and ran them through workouts on three adjacent fields? You started on Monday, had weigh-ins and covered plays, then turned the players loose for three days of head-to-head action? If the league got on board with it, this model could revolutionize the game, giving players more time to prepare for their pro day and potentially eliminating the need for a combine, or at least reducing its importance.

There are a couple of holdups. No. 1 is money, of course. The NFL is always reluctant to open its wallet, especially when there’s a reasonably good facsimile of an idea already in place (minor league football, anyone?). The other hurdle is that the league hates change. People from all walks of football have told me this, and it’s the only reason in the world why teams essentially conduct 32 different scouting operations rather than centralizing the obvious things like weigh-ins (for instance, why do 32 teams’ scouts sit in one room, writing down heights and weights with pencil and paper, when one intern could do it for all of them?).

So, there are always holdups, but there’s an idea, ready to go and on the house. Would it be an easy sell? Of course not. But I feel, and others I talk to feel, that it’s an idea whose time has come.

Random Scouting Thoughts

19 Tuesday May 2015

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After a few conversations with scouts, here are a couple of observations about the business and how, perhaps, to land a position in scouting and, once you’ve got it, how to keep it.

  • One scout told me the biggest part of his job is getting a GM, head coach or other superior to see what he’s seen and likes. In other words, when the scouting staff is watching film, it’s important the team sees film of a prospect not when he’s hurt, but when he’s healthy. If a team looks at a player when he’s coming off an ankle injury, or has a bum shoulder, or whatever, the opinion of his ability will be very different from when he was at full strength. This scout takes a personal interest in seeing that such film is what goes on the screen. I know of another scout who got a player drafted because he went back to the player’s junior-year film, when the young man was playing his best position, rather than focusing solely on what the player was doing as a senior. That scout received a promotion this year, and it was well-deserved. That’s way more than just doing the minimum. You’ve got to make sure the player is seen in his best light. That’s how you find stars that are off other teams’ radars.
  • In talking to agents, I hear a lot about how a player’s off-field issues don’t matter or at least don’t matter as much. In speaking to a scout recently, he made it clear off-field is as important as on. It’s because getting to class, getting to meetings on time, taking the steps to stay healthy, learning the playbook, being where you’re supposed to be, and everything else ‘outside the lines’ is what keeps you successful inside them. It shows maturity and a successful personality. Coaches in the NFL lack the bandwidth to be on a kid all day every day just to make sure he does what he’s supposed to.
  • I know of a scout who’s looking for a helper, an assistant, and he said he’s made a point of looking for someone who has paid his dues, working for free at times and changing places (jobs, schools) in his campaign to get to the NFL. “That guy isn’t going to expect anything to be handed to him,” my friend said. “He will know that he must work hard without me telling him.”
  • Believe it or not, scouts are not given carte blanche by some agents, and certainly by many college teams. I heard today of an agent who told a high-level scout he couldn’t have access to a draft-eligible player. “Tell me what you want and I’ll get it from him,” this agent told the scout. It’s no surprise his client went undrafted despite being among the top prospects at his position. If you represent a player, do everything possible to satisfy requests made by NFL teams. Don’t do anything to have your client taken off the board, as this agent’s client was.

Cold, hard reality

15 Friday May 2015

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I got a phone call from a friend on Wednesday. Before he would go forward with the call, he made me promise I wouldn’t disclose where he got the information he was about to tell me. That’s not unusual, and I gave my word.

As you know if you read this blog regularly, this is the time of year when scouts get fired. Despite what some people claim on Twitter, it’s not a knee-jerk reaction to some missed picks on draft weekend. In most cases, these changes were planned months ago, when there was a shift in power due to a new GM, a newly empowered head coach, a team looking to cut back, or whatever.

Anyway, my friend told me one of the 15-20 scouts who’s been shuffled out the door in the last couple weeks has a serious medical condition. It’s a brain tumor, in fact. I don’t have any details — I don’t know if it’s operable, or whether or not the scout has a contract that will pay him for another year(s) with attendant health insurance. All I know is that it’s a man with a family and serious medical questions clouding his future. My friend was beside himself.

“I mean, they knew he had a brain tumor,” he said. “They let him go anyway. It would have been so much easier to say, ‘we’re going to make a change, but we’re going to work this out.’ But they didn’t do that.”

My friend then told me I could do what I want with the information. I gotta say, I don’t quite know what to do.

First off, I don’t know the scout, and given that this is pretty sensitive information, I’m just not sure that it would be right to expose this. If we’re talking about a situation that can be handled quietly, it’s probably better to leave it alone. If it becomes widely known that he’s suffering with this condition, it probably makes him unemployable.

On the other hand, a team that would do something like this, well, it probably deserves to be exposed. But that’s hard to do given that I have one source on this, and really lack the fundamentals of the story. Without the team’s side of things, it’s hard to pick on them. What if they did take care of him? What if my friend lacks some key details?

So I’m in a bit of a quandary, but for what it’s worth, I don’t doubt what I was told. Scouts are generally seen as disposable. It’s a business, pure and simple, and just one more reason to choose wisely if you’re considering evaluation as your career path.

Here Today, Gone Tomorrow

08 Friday May 2015

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This week, on our Twitter page, we’ve broken several stories of scouts hired and fired. Let’s take a look at the potential downsides and risks of a career in evaluation.

It’s who you know: Unless your last name is the same as an NFL owner, you’ve got an uphill battle. Nepotism is rampant in personnel evaluation and team administration circles. If you don’t believe it, look at the front office page on a couple team websites (here’s one glaring example). With few exceptions, you’ll find that these jobs are not purely merit-based.

Beating the odds: Of course, not every NFL scout or high-level executive had a dad who worked in the league, but no two employment stories are the same. I remember asking an NFL GM once how a young person gets hired as a scouting assistant. His response: “Why? You know somebody?” It’s very strongly referral-based in most cases. On the other hand, the Titans, for example, ask applicants to pursue scouting assistant jobs through the HR department, which is a great way to make it fair and balanced but also makes it doubly hard to stand out. And once you make a team, it’s like you’re always on thin ice. I work with one young person who’s a scouting assistant in the league. We talk all the time about how tenuous his position is. He wants to climb the ladder, but he knows how lucky he is just to be on the ladder.

No backup plan: Lots of scouts build a 20-year career, then one day their boss gets fired, the team cleans house, and he’s on the street. Now this scout’s probably middle-aged and has spent almost his whole life watching football games and evaluating talent. That’s an extremely limited skill-set, and only 32 organizations in all the world are willing to pay a true living wage for it. This means you spend your whole life trying to get back in. I remember about five years ago I tracked down a scout that had landed a job as an assistant o-line coach at a small school after getting sacked the previous May. My idea was to pay him a couple bucks, maybe $50, to get his thoughts on any potential NFL prospects he saw that season. He laughed at me, and was pretty dismissive about it when I finally reached him. I mean, I looked at it as a chance to throw him an extra tank of gas or a bag of groceries in exchange for a helpful conversation. He was looking at it as me trying to exploit his life’s work for milk money. At the end of the day, he was still waiting for someone to ride in on a white horse and save him, restore him to the life (and job) he once knew. Five years later, that still hasn’t happened.

No scarcity: Maybe 20 years ago, being a scout was an incredibly popular idea for a young person. However, in the last 20 years, with the rise of fantasy football as well as the multiple scouting websites and analysts around, I’d guess the demand has doubled or tripled. Everyone feels he’s qualified, and can use all the buzzwords. Then there’s the proliferation of sports management programs at universities across the land, as well as some services that prey on young people, teaching them that there’s a certain certification they can earn that will enhance their chances.  All this means that young folks are tripping all over themselves, willing to work for free in many cases, for a chance to get aboard a team. They are probably far more qualified than ever before, but it’s still a numbers game.

Changing fortunes: Let’s say you work your way up to GM, and you start getting plaudits as a boy wonder. Or maybe you come from the right GM ‘tree’ or ‘family,’ and you are hired and attain instant success. Then your team misses the playoffs once or twice, maybe due to injuries or bad breaks, and suddenly your evaluation power is stripped from you. Where do you go from there? You don’t have the tools to prove yourself again, and you’re not doing the one thing that’s most rewarding in the business, so you either play out the string and try to hold onto what you have, or you resign and hope someone else is willing to give you another shot. Once again, very tenuous.

As I often say in this space, the rewards of working in football are great, and there’s nothing like pursuing your passion. Still, know the risks and the potential downsides.

WSW: Blame Game

06 Wednesday May 2015

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When a young man’s dreams come crashing down abruptly, as they did for hundreds of young men this weekend, things can get crazy. Here’s one of the craziest examples of this that I’ve seen in years.

Shortly after the season was completed, probably in November, I got an email from a draft hopeful for ’15. He played an unglamorous position at a small school, but he was eager and I liked his attitude, even though I feared he was a bit of a self-promoter and maybe a little unrealistic about the challenges he faced. He wanted me to feature him in this space and help him along the path to the draft. I told him I do this for lots of young men and that I run a for-profit venture, and offered to help if he’d come aboard briefly. No surprise, I never heard from him again.

It was maybe a month later that I got a text from one of my agent clients, an incredibly hard-working and driven new contract advisor who’s been in the game a short while. This young agent wears his emotions on his sleeve and lives and dies every day for his clients. He will not be denied, and takes on a lot of long shots in an effort to get ahead. I cautioned him that his time was/is valuable, and his efforts promoting this young man might not lead anywhere. Still, my friend pressed on, pitching him to a scouting expert who is a mutual friend.

The scout told my friend about what I had told him — that his NFL chances were exceptionally long and that it was probably not worth his time to work with him. My friend wouldn’t hear it, and instead sent him to a special trainer that worked on his flexibility and movement in addition to the usual combine prep. Days before the draft, my friend was really encourage and hopeful of his client’s chances, as most agents are. I shared his enthusiasm, and even started to believe that this young man might beat the odds. Apparently, his family and friends were absolutely certain that he would.

Then the draft came and went with no calls. Saturday night came and went with no calls. This did not go over well with the player’s family, and so the phone calls started to my friend. Over and over, different members of the young man’s family called. They blamed the agent for his predicament. They told him he had ruined the young man’s chances of going to the NFL. They called other people, trying to get them to tout the young man in an attempt to embarrass my friend, who was only guilty of believing in an against-the-odds player. On Saturday night, I told my friend to fire the player. This was hard to do, because it would leave the young man high and dry, but it would also formally end my friend’s chances of reclaiming his several-thousand-dollar investment in him.

My friend got a phone call at 6 a.m. on Sunday morning. It was the player’s brother “waking him up” so he could start calling teams and cajoling them into taking the player. At that point, I became more adamant that my friend fire this young man. As of today, the young man still has no job, but as far as I know, my friend still represents him.

The player got some interest from well-meaning but less-than-credible websites and he did several interviews and got some attention, and he accomplished a few things in workouts that got him acclaim. But none of this was going to overcome his shortcomings on the field.

If you’re aspiring to represent players in this league, understand that what happened to my friend isn’t entirely a fluke. Someone has to take the blame when a player’s dreams don’t come true. Most often, it’s the agent. That’s why I encourage you not to take on hopeless cases, expecting gratitude. More often than not, you won’t get it anyway. Find the best player you can, but don’t take on reclamation projects and don’t take on hopeless cases. In the end, it’s only going to create heartache, probably before and definitely after the draft.

Here Comes The Broom

04 Monday May 2015

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On Twitter, there’s been a lot of attention to some of the teams that are making scouting changes this week. It’s a pretty normal, seasonal thing, and not a reaction to what happened last weekend.

To give an example, this is our grid from last year showing the various behind-the-scenes changes that took place in scouting departments across the league. It was actually a pretty normal year, nothing like the 2012 offseason when about double the number of changes took place.

Anyway, here’s the list from last year. If you’d like to see the complete changes from 2013, click here, and for 2012, click here (warning, they’re pay links):

Name Former team Former position New team New position
Aligo, Scott No. Colorado Defensive ends coach Browns Player Personnel Associate
Anderson, Alan Lions Pro personnel asst Lions BLESTO scout
Anderson, Darren Lions BLESTO scout Lions Regional scout
Bailey, Charles Jaguars Pro Personnel Director (2008) Browns Senior Player Personnel Associate
Biehl, Mike Chargers Asst. Director of College Scouting Bucs Director of College Scouting
Blaylock, Brent Browns Area scout TBA
Boller, Dave Jets Area scout TBA
Bollinger, Russ Rams Area scout (2012) Falcons Player Personnel Scout
Boyd, Malik Cardinals Western Regional Scout Cardinals Asst Director of Pro Scouting
Bradway, Mike Eagles Regional Scout Eagles Asst. Director of College Scouting
Brown, Morocco Redskins Director of Pro Personnel Browns Vice President of Player Personnel
Canty, Zac Cardinals NFS scout Cardinals Area scout (Northeast)
Chapple, Colton Browns Scouting assistant Browns BLESTO scout
Colombo, Marc Dolphins Offensive tackle (2011) Cowboys Scouting assistant
Culmer, Chris Cardinals Area scout (West) Cardinals Western Regional Scout
DeLuca, Sam Eagles Pro personnel intern Browns Player Personnel Associate
DePaul, Bobby Sacramento (UFL) Director of Player Personnel Browns Senior Player Personnel Associate
Devaney, Billy Rams General Manager (2011) Falcons Player Personnel Scout
Dixon, Gerald The Citadel Assistant coach Bills Pro Scout
Edgerly, Frank Browns Senior Pro Scout Browns Assistant Coach
Forsyth, Brad Bills Area scout TBA
Gaine, Brian Dolphins Assistant General Manager Texans Director of Pro Personnel
Glenn, Aaron Jets Pro personnel asst Browns Assistant DBs coach
Hagen, Mike Toronto (CFL) Director of Player Personnel Browns Area scout
Hastings, Joe Dolphins Player (2013) Eagles Pro Personnel Assistant
Hill, Ron NFL offices Vice President of Football Operations Browns Senior Player Personnel Associate
Ireland, Jeff Seahawks 14 draft consultant TBA
Jauch, Jim Seahawks Area scout TBA
Kelleher, Joe Lions Regional Scout Lions College Scouting Coordinator/Regional scout
Kirkland, James Titans Pro Scout TBA
Kuharich, Bill Chiefs Vice President of Player Personnel Browns Executive Chief of Staff
Lindsey, Matt Eagles Scouting intern Eagles College Scouting Coordinator
Lohman, Rob Lions College Scouting Coordinator/Regional scout Lions Assistant Director of Pro Personnel
MacPherson, James Pima CC Asst coach Chargers Area scout
Manocherian, Matt Browns Area scout TBA
McCalmon, Miller Lions Asst. Director of Pro Personnel Retired
McCloughan, Scot Seahawks Senior Personnel Executive TBA
McKinnie, Silas Lions Area scout Retired
Mueller, Rick Eagles Player Personnel Executive Eagles Director of Player Personnel
Munsey, Bret Eagles Area scout Redskins Offensive assistant
Murphy, Mike Dolphins Regional Scout TBA
Myers, Ryan Eagles Pro Scout Eagles Area scout (Northeast)
Nunn, Bill Steelers College Personnel Deceased
Obee, Brad Eagles Area scout (Northeast) Eagles Area scout (Southwest)
Palko, Luke Cardinals Area scout (Southeast) Cardinals Cross-checker (East)
Pitcher, Dan Colts Scouting assistant Colts Pro Scout
Rager, Cody Dolphins Area scout TBA
Ritcher, Harrison Browns Scouting intern Browns Player Personnel Associate
Ritcher, John Cardinals Area scout (Northeast) Cardinals Area scout (Southeast)
Roberts, Daron Browns Defensive quality control Texans Pro Scout
Robinson, Jon Patriots Director of College Scouting Dolphins Director of Player Personnel
Rogers, Kevin Jr. Colts Assoc. Director of Pro Personnel Colts Director of Pro Personnel
Rosenberg, Jake Eagles Manager of Football Administration Eagles Director of Football Administration
Sandusky, Jon Browns Director of Player Personnel Browns Player Personnel Associate
Schoen, Joe Dolphins Asst. Director of College Scouting Dolphins Director of Player Personnel
Scobey, Josh Cardinals Pro scout Cardinals Area scout (West)
Shaw, Jon Colts Pro Scout Colts Pro Scout/Special Projects
Sheridan, Justin Buccaneers Area scout Chargers Area scout
Speyer, Andy Eagles Area scout Bucs National Scout
Stephenson, Jamaal Vikings Asst. Director of College Scouting Vikings Director of College Scouting
Stigall, Johnathan Browns Area scout Jets Area scout
Stokes, Eric Buccaneers Director of College Scouting Dolphins Assistant GM
Studwell, Scott Vikings Director of College Scouting Vikings TBA
Turner, Seth Buccaneers Area scout Jets Area scout
Wright, Larry Texans Pro Scout Texans Assistant Director of Pro Personnel
Young, Theo Bills Area scout TBA

 

Mike Murphy: Three Scouting Observations

27 Monday Apr 2015

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As we close in on the 2015 NFL Draft, I wanted to pass along a few interesting thoughts I got by interviewing Friend of ITL Mike Murphy last week. Mike has been with the Seahawks, Cowboys and Dolphins, giving him insights on the way the Packers (Ted Thompson), Saints (Jeff Ireland), Redskins (Scott McCloughan) and Cowboys (Jerry Jones) will be doing things this week, given the executives he worked with during his NFL days.

Mike was recently hired as the Director of Player Personnel at the University of Colorado, where he evaluates players in the recruiting process. I’ll pass along his thoughts and then provide my own thoughts and feedback.

  • Mike on signing and paying undrafted free agents: “(Senior Personnel Executive) Scot McCloughan and (Vice President of Football Operations) Ted Thompson ran the process then, and you were allowed to offer up to $5,000 and if you wanted to go over that, you had to go to Ted. I was on the phone with a kid and (GM Mike) Holmgren said, ‘Come on, Murphy, let’s get let’s get this thing done.’ I had an agent who wouldn’t budge, so he said, ‘Give me the phone.’ And Holmgren said, ‘how much is it gonna take to get this kid? $15,000? Done.’ Then he said, ‘See? This is how it’s done,’ and I said, ‘Give me $15,000 and I’ll get it done.’”
  • My takeaway here is that much of the money for undrafted players is pretty cut and dried. If you read my post last week discussing the player who lost out on a roster space because his agent passed on an initial offer from a team, you know you don’t want that to happen to you. Be very careful if you want to negotiate and ‘play agent’ during those 2-3 hours after the draft.
  • Mike on teams’ draft boards: “Some teams have 600 guys on their draft board. . . We only had 120-125 guys on the board in Miami, and more guys in Seattle, but some of it was window dressing. It’s all going through the same Ron Wolf theory. You have to have a formula you use. If you’re drafting in the top ten, you need 10 guys on the board, and as you go later, you have to have 80-85 percent of the guys possibly drafted at that pick in that round entering the draft. You have a tall running back on the board, he’s a good player but who maybe doesn’t fit your parameters. It’s window dressing.”
  • I used to think NFL teams had every draftable player on their boards, just in case, so they could have a full picture of the draft class. That’s not the case at all. Once you get down to it, there are only so many players that a team feels can make its roster in any given draft class. Once again, the NFL is not for good players, it’s for great players, or at least those that project as possibly great.
  • Mike on the influence of the media: “I think the media put the pressure on NFL owners and executives and they need to satisfy the media. You got to be strong and not listen to it, and do what you feel is right for the team, and the media isn’t in your draft room. They don’t know.
  • To me, this means if I have a player that has gotten plenty of media attention — maybe he was a try-hard QB on a great college team, or maybe he’s had drug or legal issues that the press doesn’t know about — I sell him hard to the teams with GMs or head coaches in tenuous positions. I put the media and its expectations to work for me.

If you’re interested in reading more from Mike — and I highly recommend it, especially if you’re a first- or second-year agent — click here.

 

Different Strokes

23 Thursday Apr 2015

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One thing that always fascinates me about the NFL is that, well, there are a lot of inefficiencies when it comes to player evaluation. Everyone takes a slightly different road to get to the same place, but because no one knows exactly what others are doing, it’s very hard to measure which methods are successful and which aren’t.

This is especially true of the post-draft undrafted free agency signing chase. This topic is one I’ve been studying over the past week, trying to find a consensus on how teams do things. Only problem is that there doesn’t seem to be one.

Take the selection and signing process. Several former scouts I talked to said their teams tended to use their position coaches to ‘close’ players, so I thought I’d found a common thread. With that in mind, I sent this text to Jon Kingdon, former Director of College Scouting for the Raiders, and Miller McCalmon, who was an area scout for the Redskins and Texans and headed the Lions’ pro department: “When you were going through the undrafted free agent process, were your area scouts focused on players from their areas, that they had scouted, and trying to get them signed, or were they assigned a position they had to fill, like OL or QBs or whatever?”

Jon’s response: “All this was discussed ahead of time. We liked to use the people that had historically done contracts that personally knew the agents who represented the specific players. If we did use a scout to negotiate with an agent, we would try and use the scout who wrote up the player so he could speak knowledgeably about the player to the agent which would make the agent perceive this as a greater interest in his player.”

Translation: The Raiders liked to go through the agent, leveraging the team’s cap guy’s relationship (or future relationship) with that agent. However, if the scout could speak so credibly about the player that it might sway the agent, then they’d go that route. Interesting.

Here’s Miller’s response: “I have seen it done both ways! But a lot times the area scout knows the players in his area and possibly has a relationship with them, which helps in recruiting a player. That is what that process is, it is recruiting players for as little money as possible!”

Translation: Once again, whoever has the most perceived leverage with the player (or his agent) is the one charged with getting him on board. In Miller’s case, the teams he worked with seemed to lean on the scouts.

Given that there was no real consensus, I reached out to Matt Manocherian, who was the Browns’ Northeast area scout after spending several years with the Saints. He said the Saints, for example, assigned scouts to handle certain positions, but I found out the true ‘closers’ were the team’s big-name coaches.

“Usually the coaches can connect to the kid a little bit better,” he said. “Probably like twice a year (Saints head coach) Sean Payton was used as a closer. He would be like, ‘Don’t bother me,’ then ‘Oh, that kid? Let me talk to him!’ Also, (defensive coordinator) Rob Ryan with the Saints is great. He would trust the scouts, and he would give them a type of guy he wanted, and would trust the scouts to find that player, and he would be very willing to close. He was like, ‘Whoever you guys think the best players are, let’s go get them and let me know what I can do.’ ”

I guess, at the end of the day, a team is going to do whatever it can to get the job done. Maybe it’s equally as hard for teams to gather information and come to a consensus as it is for me.

More on the UFA Chase

21 Tuesday Apr 2015

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I spent most of last week talking to some friends who were formerly in scouting, mostly about their experiences after the draft. As I’ve mentioned in this space before, I get overwhelmed by the day-to-day hype about Jameis, Marcus and the like, and it’s fun to me to learn more about the nuances of the draft that come with working in the game. So the post-draft frenzy to sign ‘scratch and dent’ players, hoping to find the Wayne Chrebet, James Harrison or Tony Romo in the bunch has a certain fascination to it.

Most teams don’t do things exactly the same when it comes to their focus on undrafted free agents, but these seem to be the common threads.

  • Most teams identify the players they expect to slide through the draft and start calling them about two weeks before the draft takes place. In other words, they’re doing that right about now. My understanding is that they’re tactful but direct about their intentions: the players they’re calling are, by their evaluation, not draftees, but interesting nonetheless. Scouts have the difficult task of damning them to the nether regions of the draft, but expressing their sincere interest in them, hoping that their calls will flatter and not enrage. Based on what I wrote last week, it seems they bat about .500 on that.
  • Once the draft starts, scouts begin their calls anew, usually around the start of the sixth round. Their pitch is very similar: ‘if you don’t get drafted (and there’s a great chance you will, but let’s say you don’t), we would love to have you, and we have a scarcity at your position and/or we’re old at your position, and you would be a perfect fit for our organization.’ Also, ‘we love undrafted free agents and you will compete on an even field with our draftees (which isn’t entirely true, of course, but they have to say that; the team that regularly cuts its draftees better have some awesome undrafted free agents to replace them).’
  • Once the draft is over, you better make sure you don’t get off the phone without a deal, and that’s especially true if your client doesn’t play one of three impact positions: offensive tackle (not guard or center, just tackle); quarterback; or defensive end/linebacker, i.e., pass rusher. The four scouts I spoke to last week all had stories of how some agent eager to squeeze another grand out of a team said, ‘We’ll call you back.’ Well, as soon as those words were spilling out of the agent’s mouth, the scout was moving on. Very rarely is that offer still available when the agent comes back. Very often, the scout won’t even take the agent’s call. I realize that’s a bitter pill to swallow for an agent who’s spent thousands of dollars training a player, but it’s still true.
  • Most scouts agreed that once the draft was over, it took them about two hours to sign the 10-12 players they were taking to camp with their draftees. After those two hours, the money’s pretty much spent and they’re just trying to fill in the cracks with leftovers. To me, that means agents need to set their watches and understand that once 120 minutes is up, you’re in scratch-and-claw-to-get-whatever-you-can territory.

Three Quick Insights on Scouting

17 Friday Apr 2015

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I’m working on a big story for ITL clients next week that will go into minute detail on the undrafted free agent signing process. That’s about the last truly unexposed part of this business, in my opinion, and for the people I work with (as well as the true NFL junkies out there) it’s need-to-know information.

Anyway, before Monday, I will have interviewed five former NFL scouts. So far, I’ve spoken to two of them at length, and it confirms a couple things I’ve always suspected, but didn’t know for sure. Here are three common denominators I’ve noticed about the scouting process as it pertains to scouts and agents:

  • All scouts are scared to death of the unknown: I remember once asking an NFL GM (the one I discussed earlier this week) if teams pay any attention to the draft guides and the websites.  He said yes, but only to a point. He said that all they cared about was making absolutely sure there wasn’t a name on any of the sites that the scouts hadn’t heard of. To some degree, player evaluation is a massive process of elimination. You want to make absolutely sure there’s not a guy out there that you haven’t at least decided can’t play.
  • NFL teams are always looking for big guys. Always. This is from Jeff Bauer, who until December was Director of College Scouting for the Jets: “Usually offensive tackles are the toughest players to find. If there’s one position, offensive tackles can demand more (from their post-draft signing bonuses) than anybody else because everybody needs tackles for camp. But if (the agent for) a receiver is messing around with a signing bonus, (he) better be careful because there’s one just like (his client) out there.”
  • Agents, like their clients, struggle with reality as it gets closer to the draft. The following comes from Jon Kingdon, until 2013 the Director of College Scouting for the Raiders: “You start calling the agents a week or two prior to the draft.  We would have someone call the agent for everyone we had ranked in the sixth and seventh round and ‘FA – YES’ grades.  He would express our interest in the player, getting as much information as he could from the agent.  He would confirm the phone numbers for the player and the agent and would then tell the agent that if the player does not get drafted, we would be interested in signing him as a free agent. Often the agent would be shocked that we would raise the possibility that his player might not get drafted, and they would tell us how much money they had invested in the player, and that they were sure his player was going in the first three rounds.  More often than not, their player would go undrafted.”
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