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War Story Weds: War in the War Room

19 Wednesday Nov 2014

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For today’s War Story Wednesday, I’m going to give the floor to Ken for a true ‘inside the war room’ account.

“There are a plethora of stories (first-hand) that I could share with many that have an interest in this kind of thing but many names will need to be left out to keep careers protected.

“When I was in draft meetings (my third season) with the Jacksonville Jaguars, there was a very heated discussion on a particular player. Now, it’s not unusual that these high-level meetings bring out some strong opinions on where a player should be stacked in regards to his specific position as well as where he fits in the big picture. Usually there are several reports (area scout, regional scout, college director, general manager, cross-checking scout, position coach, coordinator, head coach as well as all-star reports) discussed on each player when considering the overall draft process. Not all players have all of these specific reports, but the higher-profile players have this many and more.

“We all know about opinions; they’re like backsides. Everyone has one and they’re all just a bit different. After several hours of information and opinions shared (on this one particular player), the last report was presented to the group in the room. That was the all-star report, which is based on just three days in pads and obviously has a limited amount of exposure to the athlete. Now this was my player, in my area, where I had seen him for more than two years with several visits to the university. There, I had gathered a ton of information on work ethic, injury history, ability to grasp football concepts and leadership, as well as several practices viewed and a multitude of games tapes evaluated. Usually, though not always, the specific area scout (especially an experienced one) should have the best feel for where a player fits in regards to that particular team.

“Most of the opinions (grades) were fairly close (within a couple of rounds) but the “all-star” evaluation by this one scout was a bit out in left field with this player based on two days of practice (and all-star game tape) with a scheme he didn’t know, a new coaching system and teammates he had never competed with in the past. It’s never a problem having a different view of a player, but this particular scout tried to push and push a second- or third-round draft choice to the seventh round, or even free agent, category. As it were, he and I got into it in a chest-to-chest confrontation, almost like an umpire and baseball manager arguing a call at home plate. We were able to know what kind of salad dressing each of us had for lunch, and others had to separate us. Yes, two grown men almost coming to blows over a grade on a college player.

“This isn’t the norm, but believe me, the amount of time, effort, work and money that goes into evaluating these collegiate athletes can flare tempers especially after 20 consecutive days of 12-hour meetings.

“I’ll let you know what actually happened to that specific player in the next war story.”

An ex-scout’s thoughts on the November grind

18 Tuesday Nov 2014

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At this point, if you’re a football fan, you’re  probably in one of several camps.

1. Your fantasy team is crap, but your favorite NFL/college team is rolling, and you’re pretty excited.

2. Your fantasy team is rolling, but your favorite NFL/college team is crap. You’re still pretty excited.

3. Your fantasy team AND your favorite NFL/college team are rolling, so you’re pretty excited.

4. Both your fantasy team AND your favorite NFL/college team are crap, so you’re focused on basketball.

Unless you’re in the fourth category, you’ve got probably got one eye on what’s going on now, and one eye on what’s coming in the winter months, i.e., bowl season, all-star games, the combine, etc. For scouts, however, it’s very different, as the next few weeks represent the end of a long grind.

I asked a longtime friend of ITL, Ken Moll, to give me his thoughts on what’s going on if you’re a road scout with a couple weeks left before Thanksgiving. He’ll present his thoughts across the next couple days, giving us insights on what goes on with the game inside the game.

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All of this information is based on first-hand knowledge and experiences that I have had through 37 years in the industry. Competing as a linebacker at a major university, 15 years of college coaching, 13 years in NFL personnel (Jaguars and Browns), four seasons in the CFL (as a personnel director) as well as five years with ESPN (writing game matchups and free agent reports) has given me a unique perspective on professional football.”

What college area scouts are doing down the stretch:

Each NFL team is structured differently and therefore approaches its evaluation process in a variety of ways. Most (if not all) have area scouts that are responsible for a specific geographical area which has been mapped out well before the season. Understand that each of these scouts are feeling like “dish rags” at this time of year after traveling hard for approximately 22 out of 30 days the past four months, with 10 days to go before Thanksgiving. Often, they’re sleeping in four hotel rooms in five nights and sometimes not knowing (or remembering) if they are waking up in Atlanta, Georgia or Auburn, Alabama.

Down the stretch of the college season, scouts are usually doing a couple of things. They’re either “cross-checking” another area (grading players that need several looks) or tweaking their grades on players that needed a later school visit due to early-season injuries (that limited their playing time), “late bloomers” or so-called “diamonds in the rough” that are getting a lot of attention. There are several reasons why second and third looks are needed, but the main thing for a scout is to “not miss” on a player. Being the expert in your particular area is extremely important and contributing your own opinion on players in another cross-check area that may be different, or that may confirm another scout’s opinion on a player’s value to their club is equally important. Staying mentally sharp and finishing strong in regards to how efficient your travel is, as well as being extremely focused, is a tough challenge for those road warriors.

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More thoughts tomorrow. Don’t forget, if you’re in the Houston area, stop by our event tonight at 7:30 at Rice University.

Need answers? We need questions

13 Thursday Nov 2014

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In this space, I normally try to provide answers to questions I’ve received over the years, or guidance where I think it’s needed for people aspiring to make football their lives’ work. Today, I guess, I want to make sure I’m covering everything you, my reader, needs.

On Tuesday evening at 7:30 p.m., as I’ve already mentioned, I’ll be interviewing former Redskins, Texans and Lions pro and college scout Miller McCalmon for a presentation before the Rice University Sport Business Society (it will be in Herring 100 if you’re in town). It will be called ‘Inside the War Room,’ and among the things we’ll talk about is Miller’s career in scouting, from being required to get a $10,000 line of credit to be considered for an unpaid internship with George Allen’s Redskins to being in the room a week before the 2006 NFL draft when a running backs coach — of all people — helped convince the team that N.C. State DE Mario Williams should be the team’s No. 1 overall pick, and not Heisman Trophy-winning USC RB Reggie Bush.

Of course, because this is an Inside the League event, I want every student and young professional who attends to have a better understanding of what it takes to work in professional football and, more importantly, how to get that ‘big break’ that could launch your career. As such, I need questions from you, my reader. What do you wonder about? What strategies are you considering? What is precluding you from ‘going for it’ and pursuing an NFL career, and what do you need to know to help you make up your mind?

Of course, there are other questions I haven’t even thought of, and that’s why I need you to go here and add yours. I’ll try to pick at least one (and maybe several) to pose to Miller, and we’ll bring his answer back to you in this space. For what it’s worth, we’ll also be posting video of the entire program on our YouTube channel sometime before Christmas, so stay tuned for that, too.

I’ve found there’s nothing more riveting than talking to a seasoned veteran of player evaluation; their old stories and experiences offer a treasure chest of insights and bits of information that are tantalizing to a football junkie like myself. I think you feel the same way. Help me get information that will make a big difference for you professionally next week by sharing your questions here.

Face time

10 Monday Nov 2014

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Today I had a conversation with a friend of mine who’s between jobs in football right now, and starting to look outside pro football for a way to support his family. However, before he completely moves on with his life, he wants to give it one last shot, so we talked today about how he might get in front of some real difference-makers, and our discussion turned to the Senior Bowl.

There are a lot of college all-star games, but only one Senior Bowl. It’s the one place you can go (outside of maybe the combine) where you know you’ll see representatives from all 32 NFL teams and often their decision-makers (the GM and/or head coach), plus a good number of top media types who are there to get interviews and chronicle things. The Senior Bowl may be the last, best-kept secret in pro football. It’s like the Super Bowl, but for people inside the game. I’m always hearing about people who want to crack the NFL, and they go to the Super Bowl and hope to bump into someone. To me, that’s a mistake. I’ve never been to a Super Bowl, but I’ve been to every Senior Bowl but one since about 1999.

The best part about the Senior Bowl is that you don’t have to have credentials to ‘get in.’ Practices at Ladd-Peebles Stadium are open on one side of the stands, and every day, lots of students from nearby high schools, fans, parents of players or whatever show up and check out the proceedings. Meanwhile, the team hotel is pretty much where everyone congregates. It’s very similar to The Omni in Indianapolis at combine time. Though the Omni is not where combine invitees stay, it’s become the place where football types seem to congregate. The Renaissance Riverview Plaza, which does house the players, is the nerve center in Mobile. Especially early in the week, it’s the place to be, hands down. At some point, everyone moves through the Riverview. I always tell people that the first time they pass Bill Belichick or Michael Irvin or whoever in the john, they’re starstruck; the second and third times, you’re more like, ‘get out of my way.’

At any rate, getting your foot in the door with top agencies or NFL teams involves cutting through the clutter and getting face to face with someone who can make a decision. While that can be daunting, you don’t get a hit if you don’t get an at-bat. If you’re thinking the NFL is the only way you can fulfill your life professionally, start by thinking of a way to get to Mobile.

More from Miller

07 Friday Nov 2014

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I wanted to pass along a few more thoughts from my lunch with former NFL scout Miller McCalmon, whom I’ll interview for the Rice University Sports Business Society on Tuesday, Nov. 18. One of the striking things from our two hours-plus conversation was how big a role the team’s owner can play, even in personnel matters.

Miller was with the Texans for their 2006 draft, which netted them LB DeMeco Ryans, OT Eric Winston, TE Owen Daniels and, of course, DE Mario Williams. Not only are each of them still active today, well beyond the average length of an NFL career, but they were instrumental in the team’s run of success in the 2011 and 2012 seasons. Though he was on the pro side, he was brought in to help on the college draft that year as the team tried to decide what it would do with the No. 1 pick. That year, of course, the media already had the Texans with Heisman-winning running back Reggie Bush on the heels of his sterling junior season at Southern Cal. But the team was very dilligent in its selection process, and wound up selecting Williams, to everyone’s surprise.

What caught me off-guard is that Miller says owner Bob McNair was part of the decision-making process. He didn’t make the call on who the team would take, of course, but he did take part as, a week before the draft, two of the team’s coaches made lengthy cases each for Williams and Bush. McNair took in all the points made during the video, heard the coaches point out the qualities that made each special, and considered the impact each would make on the team.

That year, like this year, there was a talented local quarterback that people around Houston hoped the Texans would take; in 2006, it was Texas’ Vince Young, while this year, it was Texas A&M’s Johnny Manziel.  The difference is that while McNair never pressured GM Charley Casserly or head coach Gary Kubiak into selecting Young, it’s been widely reported that Titans owner Bud Adams was pretty heavy-handed about his desire to take Young, a Houston high school legend. Maybe that’s why the Texans’ dip won’t be as pronounced as the Titans’ struggles have been.

On the other hand, Miller also worked for the Lions. Detroit’s ownership, the Ford family, has been aggressively hands-off for the most part, and that hasn’t led to results, per se. I guess it’s always hard to draw conclusions, and one size doesn’t fit all.

 

WST: Relationship-building

06 Thursday Nov 2014

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On Tuesday, Nov. 18, at 7:30 p.m., I’ll be interviewing former NFL scout Miller McCalmon before an audience from the Rice Sports Business Society. We’ll talk about his experiences in scouting and he’ll tell a few war stories, as well as imparting his advice on how to break into the the sports business in general and professional football specifically. Today I did the pre-interview over lunch at a Houston restaurant.

I’ve interviewed five or six former NFL scouts (and have the videos archived at ITL), and every time I do it, the pre-interview is a lot of fun for a football weirdo like me. You get to hear all kinds of stories about players and front office types that you’d never read anywhere else, and I always learn something, or at least get something reinforced that I already know. Today was no exception.

Miller has almost four decades in the game (38 years, to be exact). His story of getting hired by the Redskins as a scout (his first job in pro football) will probably turn up in a War Story Wednesday one day because it’s quite interesting, but the real takeaway I got from his story was that he came in just one year ahead of Charley Casserly, who went on to be a GM with the Redskins and Texans. They were both hired by legendary Redskins head coach George Allen, and that’s about the last time Miller got a job from someone he didn’t know beforehand.

At that time in the early-to-mid 70s, Miller was head coach at a high school in Colorado, but wanted to move over to college coaching. He went into scouting because, frankly, Allen regarded the draft lightly and sent his interns into scouting. Miller eventually moved on to other teams (the Bills and Colts) before getting back into scouting with the Redskins. At that point, Casserly had moved up the ranks, and brought him back to Washington. Later in his career, Miller was working with the BLESTO scouting service when Casserly came to Houston to launch the Texans franchise as its GM and hired him again, this time as a pro scout.

After the Texans scouting staff got sacked in the late ’00s, Martin Mayhew had risen to GM in Detroit. Mayhew had played for the Redskins when Casserly and McCalmon were in Washington, and even interned in the front office at one point. Through that connection, Miller was able to finish out his career with the Lions before retiring in January.

If you read this blog regularly, you know that maintaining relationships and building strong bonds with your coworkers is a recurring theme. I thought I’d pass along today’s story just to reinforce that lesson.

 

 

War Story Weds: Desperation

05 Wednesday Nov 2014

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In my newsletter for parents of 2015 NFL draft prospects and the prospects themselves, I’ve been talking a lot about the all-star game process. How do invitations work? When do they come out? Who are they sent to? What if I don’t accept? What if I accept later? There are dozens of questions associated with the all-star process, and plenty at stake for those who don’t make the right moves, act promptly, etc.

These recent editions of my newsletter have been met with plenty of emails, calls and texts from readers. I’m glad to get these questions. It’s much better to handle these issues now, in early November, than some time in late December or even early January, when it’s far too late. Whenever I’m talking to parents concerned about their sons’ place in the process, it reminds me of January 2007.

I was working on my first-ever game here in Houston, the Inta Juice North-South All-Star Classic. It was pretty heady stuff for me back then, as I’d just launched ITL a few short years beforehand and I was already playing a central role in filling the rosters of a game that real NFL scouts would attend. It was a fun fall and winter. Part of what made it fun was that there were two games we were competing against for talent, one in Las Vegas and one in El Paso.

At times, we would hear that others were saying our game wouldn’t be played. This infuriated us, but there was little we could do about it. At the same time, we were hearing that the other two games wouldn’t be played. We had no way to know if this was true or not, though I’ll admit we had a lot of fun considering the possibilities of one or both games falling through.

As the weeks progressed, we moved closer and closer to the game itself in early January. We were scheduled head-to-head with two contests that year, the one in Las Vegas and the Hula Bowl in Honolulu (which, ironically, I would run the following year). On the Friday before our players were scheduled to start arriving on Sunday, we started to get credible evidence that the Las Vegas game would, indeed, be cancelled. Very soon, the phone calls started poring into our office line.

We fielded probably 70-80 calls that Friday night from people, mostly parents and the players themselves, that were irate, devastated, shocked, tearful, or all of the above. We wound up taking calls until around 1 a.m., then trudged home, bleary-eyed and empty. But the real calls started the next day.

When we arrived at the office that Saturday, we had more than a hundred messages (there’s no telling how many actual calls we had received). The voice mails they left were an incredible mess. Callers talked of suing the organizers of the Las Vegas game. They boasted about how scouts were infatuated with their sons, who would be a credit to our game. They begged. They pleaded. They threatened. Sometimes, they threatened, then called back, apologizing and begging to be invited. Some offered money. Some parents cried during the message. Some screamed. It was amazing. We wanted to help, but we were trapped. We wound up adding a handful to our roster, but couldn’t help many. The others, I guess, tried different options, but I doubt many of them found another game.

This wasn’t a life-or-death situation, but it sure felt that way to those parents and those players. And while no one could have predicted that the Vegas game would fail, and so late in the process, it does help to get as educated as possible on these games and really know the ins and outs of things.

If you’re a parent who’s got questions, I’m here to help. Reach me at nstratton@insidetheleague.com

War Story Wednesday: Trouble

29 Wednesday Oct 2014

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On Tuesday, I touched on the subject of players that just can’t be saved. Today, I want to expand on a story I glossed over in that post.

About a year ago, I was on the phone with Marco Marciano, who was then working with XL Sports Agency, which is based in Miami. Marco is not a certified contract advisor, but was part of XL’s recruiting team (Marco has since left XL). At any rate, Marco became a client after I had reported that former Oregon TE Colt Lyerla had signed with his then-firm.

Keep in mind that this was late October with many weeks of college football left to play, and Lyerla had departed from the team voluntarily and, obviously, in response to a pending suspension from the team. Already, people in draft circles knew Lyerla had unlimited physical ability but numerous struggles off the field. As I spoke to Marco, whom I like a great deal, I didn’t quite know what to say. Already, it was clear they had signed a troubled young man who would most likely not be willing, or able, to change. I wanted to warn Marco but didn’t know how, given the commitments already made.

Marco told me his agency had set Lyerla up to train with Tom Shaw in Orlando, Fla. Though Tom is not an ITL client, he is nonetheless very good in his field and also a pioneer in combine prep. As such, a normal training program would be costly, but Lyerla was going to be starting in October. That adds two months and several thousand dollars to his training package. And all this money would be spent on a player who would most surely not be drafted due to all his baggage, meaning his agency would be chasing that money for years.

As I recall, it was just days later that Lyerla had his first offseason arrest. Marco called me decrying the fact that they had not gotten him out of Eugene quickly enough, and that had they just gotten him on a plane to Orlando, it never would have happened. I didn’t know how to tell him that it didn’t look like it would have mattered where he was, that drugs were a major problem for him.

That was one of the last times I spoke to Marco, and also one of the last times XL Sports was still representing the former Duck. Just as I expected, Lyerla was dogged with several other problems last offseason, and in fact changed agencies twice in the space of six months, going from XL to Morgan Advisory Group to Elevate Sports, which reps him now. All three firms are reputable and able, even though Colt has not been.

Today, as then, Lyerla has tantalizing athletic ability, though he’s out for the season after experiencing a knee injury in camp. Due to his talent, he will not lack for suitors, either in the NFL or among agents. I hope he learns his lesson, though there are no guarantees. But I hope everyone who reads this and aspires to work in sports learns the lesson Marco and many others had to learn the hard way.

The Season of Excitement

27 Monday Oct 2014

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Here are five reasons why this is the time of year to get excited about the business of football if you’re in the biz already, or aspire to be someday.

1. College recruiting is heating up: Many of the bigger agencies don’t get started talking to players in earnest until October, and sometimes even November and December. I know that goes against the grain of common belief, but it’s true. I’ve had representatives of several bigger firms asking pointed questions about players in the ’15 draft in the past week-and-a-half. It’s pretty clear they’re just getting started.

2. Trade deadline is this week: Football is way less exciting than baseball when it comes to the trade deadline, but every once in a while a legitimate player gets swapped. Will this be the year? We’ll know by close of business Tuesday.

3. New agent class is being published: As we’ve detailed in this space as well as our Twitter page, the contract advisors who passed the CBA exam this summer are being rolled out on the NFLPA’s website. At the same time, agents who’ve decided enough is enough are being pulled from the site. The entire new class has not been posted yet, and I know of several agents whose names are still posted though they didn’t pay their dues. But changes are coming.

4. NFL dreams get real: As I’ve chronicled in this space, over the last week I’ve begun to speak to several parents about how their sons can improve their NFL chances. In fact, I’m supposed to get a call from a parent in just a few minutes. That’s really common this time of year. I rarely, if ever, get these calls before October 1, and the lion’s share come in after Halloween.

5. Speculation about the No. 1 pick ramps up: As someone who tries to watch NFL draft buzz objectively, it’s always fascinating to see what player (usually a quarterback) the media appoints as the no-doubt top pick next spring. In the late fall of 2011 it was Matt Barkley (presuming he left after his junior year). In 2005, it was Matt Leinart of USC. Go back to 2008 and it was Brian Brohm of Louisville, and a year before, most tabbed Notre Dame’s Brady Quinn. Just last year, the lock was Louisville’s Teddy Bridgewater. As we know now, none of them was No. 1 overall, and most went toward the end of Round 1. Some (Barkley and Brohm) didn’t even go in the first round. Talk is cheap, especially talk about the NFL draft.

 

Straining the draft a little more

20 Monday Oct 2014

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There seems to have been a significant amount of interest in Friday’s report examining the relative value and endurance of draft picks by round. With that in mind, we went back 10 years to look for more trends, this time sifting out by year.

  • If there’s a formula or trend for figuring out what percentage of a draft class drops off every year, I can’t find it.
  • I guess, in general, each draft class shrinks by about 10 percent annually, though that trend only really works for the first five years. After that, the proving seems to end and the veterans that have stayed through that long weeding-out process have more league stamina.
  • For example, 93 percent of the 2014 draft is active on 53-man rosters or practice squads, which is pretty standard. About 85 percent of the ’13 class is still around, while 75.1 percent of ’12 remains; 61.4 percent of 2011; 54.1 percent of ’10, and 42.6 percent of ’09.
  • After that, however, at that six-year mark, cuts curb sharply. For example, there’s only a 4.5 percent dropoff between 2009 (42.6 percent) and 2008 (38 percent). From there, we see a 10 percent drop again to ’07 (27.4), but there are actually more 2006 players still active (71 vs. 70, or 27.8 percent of ’06) from the ’06 class than from the ’07 class.
  • On Friday, we rolled out the teams that have the most picks still in the league. We feel it’s a good, objective way to measure which teams are able to locate the best talent that translates across team schemes, philosophies, etc. It’s just a way to find out who can locate good football players. The 49ers came out on top, so we went back five years (to the 2010 draft) to see which teams had the most players still active since then compared to the number of players they picked.
  • Once again, the Niners came out on top with 42 of their 48 picks since ’10 still active in the league, or 87.5 percent. That’s outstanding. Also picking exceptionally well since 2010 were the Broncos, Texans and Jets, all of them at 81 percent or better.
  • This probably explains why the Texans, despite cratering completely last year, have bounced right back to respectability this year, while the Niners and Broncos remain two of the league’s top franchises year in and year out. As for the Jets, it may be an indication that the team has performed at least marginally well the last 3-4 years despite, not because of, Rex Ryan.
  • The bottom of the barrel? It’s a good thing the Colts got Andrew Luck right and have had success finding bargains in undrafted free agency and other leagues. At 60 percent (21 of 35), they’re all alone on the bottom. Joining them in the bottom five are the Panthers (61.1), Redskins (61.9), Bills (64.3) and Eagles (64.6).
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